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Steven Wagler
By Tim Murphy
Article reprinted with permission from the New Hamburg Independent


About 20 years ago, Steve Wagler was having a conversation with his grandfather about what he would do with his life.

Suggesting the younger Wagler enter the ministry, his grandfather offered him some advice that has stuck all these years.

“He said never forget where you’ve come from, and in doing so, you will always find success.”

Wagler is the latest president of the Insurance Brokers Association of Ontario (IBAO).

The Josslin Insurance broker has taken the leadership role at the trade organization which advocates for consumers at government and industry levels.

The IBAO is a grassroots insurance organization which has 10,100 members he said. Wagler has been president of a smaller insurance board before. In 1999, he headed the Brokers Association of Waterloo.

Wagler will serve a one-year term as president. He has been sitting on the executive for the past four years, waiting for his turn to be president. Wagler will spend about 120 days each year working on IBAO business.

He said the dedication of the staff at Josslin is what will make his new role work.

The local man has been involved in insurance for pretty much his entire life.

“I was born into it,” he said.

Josslin Insurance Brokers can trace its roots back to 1880, when New Hamburg man Louis Peine opened up a shop. It was operated by several owners until 1953, when John Josslin acquired the firm and lent his name to the company. In 1975, the company was sold to Donald Wagler. In 1984, a Tavistock brokerage was acquired and added to the Josslin name, followed by the purchase of a Kitchener company in 1989.

By the 1990’s, Steve and his brother Scott entered the company.

“We’re all in the family,” he said.

In 2003, the Wellesley branch was opened.

Why does Wagler continue his involvement in the company?

“What I enjoy most in the business is we get to help people when they need us the most,” he said.

Receiving a call late at night for a flooded basement or a burning barn is the norm for an insurance agent.

“We can help to rebuild their lives.” He said.

Josslin Insurance deals with personal, vehicle, home, business and commercial insurance.

There are a few issues Wagler hopes to look at during his term. One of those issues is the federal review of the Bank Act. Wagler said the act will determine whether or not credit unions will be able to sell insurance and own brokerages.

“Insurance brokers across the country are lobbying for consumer protection,” he said.

During the IBAO’s 86th annual convention in Oct. 18-20, Wagler spoke to the issue. He said that every five years a federal review of the Bank Act takes place, and since the early 1930’s, bank intererst in the insurance industry has been increasing. Prime Minister Stephen Harper spoke to the IBAO the day before Wagler addressed the convention. Harper said the Conservatives would protect brokerages and not allow the sale of insurance by banks.

Wagler said another major issue is ensuring supply channels for insurance remain open, and that brokerages continue to be the outlet for insurance.

Some major insurance companies also sell their own insurance, he said, rather than channeling it through a brokerage.

“We don’t think that the consumer is well served, when a single supplier buys a brokerage and moves that business to one company.”

Wagler said it is to the benefit of the consumers for brokerages to be able to shop around for the best deals. He said that the IBAO is consumer focused.

“That’s what we do here, that’s what we’re all about.”

Looking to the future, Wagler said that need for brokerages to remain independent is key.

“We put their (consumers) interests first,” he said.”



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By David Gambrill
Article reprinted with permission from Canadian Underwriter


Incoming IBAO president Steven Wagler wants brokers to discuss brokerage succession and the preservation of independence.


New Hamburg broker Steven Wagler, the incoming president of the Insurance Brokers Association of Ontario (IBAO), is hoping to translate his hometown experience into a model for brokerage succession and broker independence throughout the province.

Since the mid '80s, Wagler has worked in his hometown of New Hamburg at Josslin Insurance, which can be described quite literally as a "Mom and Pop" organization. Wagler's parents, Don and Rose Wagler, are partners at Josslin, which Don bought from J.B. Josslin in 1974. Steve's brother, Scott, has worked with the company since 1992.

Established in 1880, the company has been bought, sold and owned by independent brokers throughout its 125-year history. Wagler points to Josslin's storied tradition as a model for brokerage succession throughout the province. It is especially important for brokers throughout the province to discuss brokerage succession models, Wagler notes, at a time when "multiples" - a measure of a brokerage's worth - are rising and brokers are thinking of selling.

Independent brokers could end up being their own worst enemies, Wagler fears, if they choose to sell their brokerages to direct writers or non-brokers, thus reducing the province's overall pool of independent brokers. Wagler calls this a "moral fibre" issue, and says he plans to open a discussion about it when he becomes president of the IBAO.

"Companies buying the distribution channel is a new phenomenon," Wagler notes, adding that the preferred form of transition would be one of independent brokers selling to other independent brokers, thus "keeping it in the family."

Wagler notes his company has transitioned through several different owners since its establishment in 1880. J.B. Josslin bought the company in the late 1940s and sold it to Wagler's family in 1974. Josslin worked part-time with the brokerage until the firm' celebrated its 125th anniversary this year.

BROKERAGE PERPETUATION

Wagler is clearly proud the company has stayed in the hands of independent brokers. "We've got the automatic succession," he says. "We're the fortunate ones, or my Dad is the fortunate generation, compared to some of his friends that don't have that succession planned. That being said, he succeeded somebody who didn't have a family succession, so it's happened [that independent brokers have bought and sold to one another] in the past...

"J.B. Josslin looked after livelihoods of people, employees, and wanted to give back to them because they provided his wealth and growth. At some point, brokers have to transfer the wealth. How do the people who are selling now get involved? If they're not giving the same opportunity to the next generation [to own independent brokerages], then how are we going to attract people to this business?

"It all fits together. It's a puzzle, and if you take one big chunk out of it, the other pieces will never join up and you won't get the young people anymore, or the entrepreneurial types. You're not going to attract the right type of people. You're going to have a self-fulfilling prophecy, and the independent broker's gone.

"I think if there's one thing I'd like to do, it's maybe [discuss] this moral fibre issue. I think there's room for this to be talked about openly. "

Wagler says the brokerage perpetuation issue came up for debate at the IBAO convention in 2005. At the time, brokers noted ING's acquisition of new brokers through Canada Broker Link. The issue arose once again, Wagler says, when Royal & SunAlliance Canada acquired new brokers by default when its subsidiary, Johnson Corporation, bought Morgex Insurance Group. Wagler says he is interested to see if companies such as AXA and Aviva follow suit. Wagler believes insurance companies may be forced to contemplate the future purchase of brokers, making the argument that they must do so in order to protect their market share. "I'm sure you've heard what some of these players are paying for things," Wagler says. "Certainly it's an incentive for those brokers who have not done any succession planning and that are basically sitting there like ducks, you know?"

NO 'SILVER BULLET'

Wagler says there is no "silver bullet," quick-fix to the brokerage perpetuation issue. He says the IBAO's role is to communicate what is happening and brainstorm ideas on how to use its resources to facilitate sales of one brokerage to another. "The association is not about buying brokers, but if we can provide tools and information and a communication vehicle to let others know [brokers] who are interested [in buying and/or selling], we could maybe connect them."

The IBAO might also be able to help brokers assess the true value of their brokerages. In addition, the IBAO must communicate the true value to the consumer of perpetuating independently owned brokerages.

"We need to do a better job as the independent broker in the marketplace of actually marketing what we do," he says. "We offer choice and independent advice because we have no company ownership of our brokerage. So we all work for you [the consumers]."

Of course, "keeping it in the family" is nothing new for Steve Wagler, who has literally grown up in the insurance business. Wagler was licensed to work at his father's brokerage shortly after leaving high school. He graduated with a general B.A. in Economics at the University of Waterloo, obtained his RIBO license as a broker in 1988, and has steadily been rising through the ranks of the insurance business ever since. In 1991, he started to work full-time at Josslin, which sells personal lines products and has expanded over the past three years to include commercial lines.

Wagler was active in his local insurance broker association, where he became president in 1998. He joined the IBAO one year later. Wagler cites his work as past president of his local association as a reason why he received a call from IBAO's chief executive officer, Bob Carter, urging him to consider becoming an IBAO board director. The position offers a potential path to the presidency of the IBAO. Wagler was honoured to get Carter's call. "One of the things that makes the IBAO really strong is the fact that they don't have concentration in one area," he says. "It's across the province. It [the presidency] moves around. You get fresh ideas. You don't get ripe on the vine. It stays green and ... it's a grassroots organization."

UPHOLDING INDEPENDENCE

Wagler says he expects that, while IBAO president, he will be called upon to help make sure credit unions in Ontario are not allowed to retail insurance products from their branches. Similarly, he will be helping to stickhandle the Bank Act review to a final, successful conclusion. Recently, the federal finance ministry elected to maintain the status quo in a White Paper, which means banks are not allowed to sell insurance products or deliver insurance information to consumers through their local branches. Wagler's role as IBAO president will be to make sure the absence of the issue in the government's White Paper translates into an absence of the issue from government financial services legislation, which Parliament is expected to pass in April 2007.

"This one's not over," Wagler says. "Although we have great arguments, we still have to be present and makes the points understood. They're not self-serving issues. These are public issues. Our strength is that, in the past, we have demonstrated that we are for the consumer. That's how we win these lobbies."

Wagler says his interactions with consumers are the most rewarding part of his livelihood. "It's a relational business," he says. "Most people in this business are there for that reason. The second thing is that you really are making a difference in people's lives. When they need help, you are solving problems."


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Supporting the
Strong Start Program

At Grandview Public School
In New Hamburg

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Don and Scott Wagler from Josslin Insurance present a cheque to the Strong Start Program at Grandview Public School.

Strong Start is a community literacy program that assists young children in learning initial reading skills. With the help of volunteers and donations from local businesses, Strong Start is able to make a significant contribution to the learning resources of over 120 schools in regional communities. If you are interested in learning more about the Strong Start Program, or would like to make a donation, please visit their website at www.strongstart.ca

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Don and Scott Wagler with a student and volunteers of the Strong Start Program at Grandview Public School in New Hamburg



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